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SALVAGED
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« on: August 07, 2011, 10:01:37 PM »

Scientific Disciplines Established by Bible-believing Scientists
1. Antiseptic Surgery - Joseph Lister
2. Bacteriology - Louis Pasteur
3. Calculus - Isaac Newton
4. Celestial Mechanics - Johann Kepler
5. Chemistry - Robert Boyle
6. Comparative Anatomy - Georges Cuvier
7. Computer Science - Charles Babbage
8. Dimensional Analysis - Lord Rayleigh
9. Dynamics - Isaac Newton
10. Electrodynamics - James Clerk Maxwell
11. Electromagnetics - Michael Faraday
12. Electronics - Ambrose Fleming
13. Energetic - Lord Kelvin
14. Entomology of Living Insects - Henri Fabre
15. Field Theory - Michael Faraday
16. Fluid Mechanics - George Stokes
17. Galactic Astronomy - William Herschel
18. Gas Dynamics - Robert Boyle
19. Genetics - Gregor Mendel
20. Glacial Geology - Louis Agassiz
21. Gynecology - James Simpson
22. Hydraulics - Leonardo DaVinci
23. Hydrography - Matthew Maury
24. Hydrostatics - Blaise Pascal
25. Ichthyology - Louis Agassiz
26. Isotopic Chemistry - William Ramsay
27. Model Analysis - Lord Rayleigh
28. Natural History - John Ray
29. Non-Euclidean Geometry - Bernhard Riemann
30. Oceanography - Matthew Maury
31. Optical Mineralogy - David Brewster
32. Paleontology - David Brewster
33. Pathology - Rudolph Virchow
34. Physical Astronomy - Johann Kepler
35. Reversible Thermodynamics - James Joule
36. Statistical Thermodynamics - James Clerk Maxwell
37. Stratigraphy - Nicholas Steno
38. Systematic Biology - Carolus Linnaeus
39. Thermodynamics - Lord Kelvin
40. Thermo kinetics - Humphrey Davy
41. Vertebrate Paleontology - George Cuvier

Notable Inventions, Discoveries, or Developments by Bible-believing scientists
1. Absolute Temperature Scale - Lord Kelvin
2. Actuarial Tables - Charles Babbage
3. Barometer - Blaise Pascal
4. Biogenesis Law - Louis Pasteur
5. Calculating Machine - Charles Babbage
6. Choloform - James Simpson
7. Classification System - Carolus Linnaeus
8. Double Stars - William Herschel
9. Electric Generator - Michael Faraday
10. Electric Motor - Joseph Henry
11. Ephemeris Tables - Johann Kepler
12. Fermentation Control - Louis Pasteur
13. Galvanometer - Joseph Henry
14. Global Star Catalog - John Herschel
15. Inert Gases - William Ramsay
16. Kaleidoscope - David Brewster
17. Law of Gravity - Isaac Newton
18. Mine Safety Lamp - Humphrey Davy
19. Pasteurization - Louis Pasteur
20. Reflecting Telescope - Isaac Newton
21. Scientific Method - Francis Bacon
22. Self-induction - Joseph Henry
23. Telegraph - Samuel F.B. Morse
24. Thermionic Valve - Ambrose Fleming
25. Transatlantic Cable - Lord Kelvin
26. Vaccination and Immunization - Louis Pasteur

Many of the founding fathers of modern science were men who believed in God, the Bible and creation, was first published as an ICR “Impact Article” in Acts and Facts, (Jan. 1982), then in Men of Science, Men of God, by Henry M. Morris (San Diego: Master Books, 1982, 1988), 107 pp.
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 10:04:57 PM »

I'm sorry, I can't add to that list. I imagine you could add the majority of scientists from after the rise of christianity to 1900s-ish (just a guess).

I have 2 reasons for this: firstly you could claim almost anything about the private lives of 99% of scientists and few people could argue against it (Newton's favourite colour was tangello). Secondly our understanding of the way the universe works has only really developed to something so comprehensive in the last few decades- before then we had no idea about tectonic plates, supernovas and evolution, so many people would be forced to concede the idea of a supreme God to explain what we don't know.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 10:08:10 PM »

There are undoubtedly many more, but your list is worthless.

ALL of the scientists on your list died before the discovery of DNA, and many before even the theory of evolution. In such circumstances, theism still made sense. If the same set of scientists were alive today, I would wage that most would be agnostics or atheists.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 10:52:52 PM »

Lol
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 11:14:51 PM »

Can't add to your list, but I know quite a few theistic scientists today.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 11:21:54 PM »

The Scientific Method cannot be used to prove or disprove the existence of God. Science is silent on the subject.  

One of the major thinkers in the development of the Big Bang Theory was a Roman Catholic Priest (Georges Lemaître).  

A similar list can be made for all religious thought.  There are competent scientists that are: Theists, Atheists, Agnostic, Monotheists, or Polytheists.  The two areas of human thought are not related so long as you do not bring dogma from either area into the other.  

The mind set for science is: The universe makes sense and is governed by logical, consistent rules that we can figure out. Therefore, the Scientific Method can be thought of as being like the Rules of Evidence in a Court of Law. The SM does NOT allow the use of "God" as part of the support of a scientific argument. This has nothing to do with the existence or nonexistence of God. You can be a Theist and hold that your goal is to understand the Mind of God.  You are trying to understand how God did it, even if you cannot understand why.   You cannot say, "This is beyond my understanding, so God must have done it."   Nor, can you say that your Holy Book that has been translated from ancient languages written by people that did not have the understanding we have is the reveled Word of God and 100% accurate and literally correct. (Example:  The Hebrews at the time of Moses did not have the concept of fractions as a result the Biblical value for Pi is exactly 3 (1 Kings).  Nor, did they understand the Horologic Cycle and believed that rain was an Act of God.)Perhaps, Genesis 1:1 was mistranslated from ancient Hebrew. I think it might say, "In the Beginning the universe was void and without form and God said, 'BANG!!' and there was matter and energy.")
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 11:31:34 PM »

Clearly you are setting yourself up for argument by appeal to authority.  Appeal to authority is anti-science, not science.  But uneducated people don't know the difference, and you are preparing to exploit their ignorance.  This is just my own personal opinion, but exploiting ignorance doesn't seem to be a very Christian endeavor.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 11:56:47 PM »

You are not making an equal comparison.
You are comparing apples with oranges.
Believing in a creator is something and believing in a dogmatic beliefs is something else.
Also you are talking about individuals who believed in God and Science who were persecuted by the Church. Why because the church suppressed knowledge except what they approved.

I am not accusing the Christian faith here I am pointing to the clergy. This clergy suppressing system happens every where, generation and religion. It also happened in Islam but to a lesser extent. Why because the role of clergy in Islam is minimal if at all. This is why science prospered under the Islamic state rule. They encouraged research and learning. This is why every Muslim scientist between 7th and almost till 18th century was a devout practicing person.

But, in comparison the role of the Christian clergy was so powerful that it suppressed science, research and learning (even Bible learning except what the clergy taught - in Islam a child would know the Quran by heart) this is why Christian Europe plunged into darkness from 300CE to 17th century when the scientist broke of the church though some remained to believe in God their own way.

Please understand it is the human element that supreses more than the religion itself.
Christianity does not specifically condemn knowledge but clergy took it upon themselves to do so.
While Islam in the Quran pushes people to go and do research and no clergy to stop it. (though at certain times some powerful personalities tried to push people to their way of thinking - but faced with clear Quranic verses failed to do so sooner or later)

So make sure you do a good and compatible comparison.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 01:39:15 AM »

And your point is???

Would you like a list of Muslim scientists???

See the link below.  The list is too long to list here...

The Muslim scientists were advancing the world's knowledge when Christians were busy trying to figure out how many angels could dance on the head of a pin OR whether Adam had a navel...

How about these scientists...

Anaksagor (500-428 BC)
Anaksimandr (610-547 BC)
Anaksimen (apprx. 585 - apprx. 523 BC)
Apollony Pergsky (apprx. 260 - 170 BC)
Archimedes (287-212 BC)
Aristotle (384-322 BC)
Brahmagupta (568-460 BC)
Chzhan Hen (78-139
Demokrit (460-360 BC)
Diofant (300 BC.)
Eratosfen (276-191 BC)
Erazistrat (IV-III centuries BC)
Evklid (III century BC)
Fales Miletsky (625-547 BC)
Fukidid (460-395 BC)
Geraklit (500BC)
Gerodot (300 BC)
Geron Alexandria (a pprx. I century d.C.)
Gipparh (apprx. 190 - 125 BC)
Gippokrat (460-377 BC)
Great Juj (2000 BC)
Imhotep (2650 BC)
Ksenofont (430-355 BC)
Pifagor (572-497 BC)
Pjan Chiao (V century BC)
Platon (427-347 BC) Prokl (410-485
Ptolemej Claudias (Apprx. 168)
Shi Shen (IV century BC)

None of whom were Christians...
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