SALVAGED
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Scientific Disciplines Established by Bible-believing Scientists 1. Antiseptic Surgery - Joseph Lister 2. Bacteriology - Louis Pasteur 3. Calculus - Isaac Newton 4. Celestial Mechanics - Johann Kepler 5. Chemistry - Robert Boyle 6. Comparative Anatomy - Georges Cuvier 7. Computer Science - Charles Babbage 8. Dimensional Analysis - Lord Rayleigh 9. Dynamics - Isaac Newton 10. Electrodynamics - James Clerk Maxwell 11. Electromagnetics - Michael Faraday 12. Electronics - Ambrose Fleming 13. Energetic - Lord Kelvin 14. Entomology of Living Insects - Henri Fabre 15. Field Theory - Michael Faraday 16. Fluid Mechanics - George Stokes 17. Galactic Astronomy - William Herschel 18. Gas Dynamics - Robert Boyle 19. Genetics - Gregor Mendel 20. Glacial Geology - Louis Agassiz 21. Gynecology - James Simpson 22. Hydraulics - Leonardo DaVinci 23. Hydrography - Matthew Maury 24. Hydrostatics - Blaise Pascal 25. Ichthyology - Louis Agassiz 26. Isotopic Chemistry - William Ramsay 27. Model Analysis - Lord Rayleigh 28. Natural History - John Ray 29. Non-Euclidean Geometry - Bernhard Riemann 30. Oceanography - Matthew Maury 31. Optical Mineralogy - David Brewster 32. Paleontology - David Brewster 33. Pathology - Rudolph Virchow 34. Physical Astronomy - Johann Kepler 35. Reversible Thermodynamics - James Joule 36. Statistical Thermodynamics - James Clerk Maxwell 37. Stratigraphy - Nicholas Steno 38. Systematic Biology - Carolus Linnaeus 39. Thermodynamics - Lord Kelvin 40. Thermo kinetics - Humphrey Davy 41. Vertebrate Paleontology - George Cuvier
Notable Inventions, Discoveries, or Developments by Bible-believing scientists 1. Absolute Temperature Scale - Lord Kelvin 2. Actuarial Tables - Charles Babbage 3. Barometer - Blaise Pascal 4. Biogenesis Law - Louis Pasteur 5. Calculating Machine - Charles Babbage 6. Choloform - James Simpson 7. Classification System - Carolus Linnaeus 8. Double Stars - William Herschel 9. Electric Generator - Michael Faraday 10. Electric Motor - Joseph Henry 11. Ephemeris Tables - Johann Kepler 12. Fermentation Control - Louis Pasteur 13. Galvanometer - Joseph Henry 14. Global Star Catalog - John Herschel 15. Inert Gases - William Ramsay 16. Kaleidoscope - David Brewster 17. Law of Gravity - Isaac Newton 18. Mine Safety Lamp - Humphrey Davy 19. Pasteurization - Louis Pasteur 20. Reflecting Telescope - Isaac Newton 21. Scientific Method - Francis Bacon 22. Self-induction - Joseph Henry 23. Telegraph - Samuel F.B. Morse 24. Thermionic Valve - Ambrose Fleming 25. Transatlantic Cable - Lord Kelvin 26. Vaccination and Immunization - Louis Pasteur
Many of the founding fathers of modern science were men who believed in God, the Bible and creation, was first published as an ICR “Impact Article” in Acts and Facts, (Jan. 1982), then in Men of Science, Men of God, by Henry M. Morris (San Diego: Master Books, 1982, 1988), 107 pp.
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LordYon13
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 10:04:57 PM » |
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I'm sorry, I can't add to that list. I imagine you could add the majority of scientists from after the rise of christianity to 1900s-ish (just a guess).
I have 2 reasons for this: firstly you could claim almost anything about the private lives of 99% of scientists and few people could argue against it (Newton's favourite colour was tangello). Secondly our understanding of the way the universe works has only really developed to something so comprehensive in the last few decades- before then we had no idea about tectonic plates, supernovas and evolution, so many people would be forced to concede the idea of a supreme God to explain what we don't know.
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Golgi_Apparatus
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 10:08:10 PM » |
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There are undoubtedly many more, but your list is worthless.
ALL of the scientists on your list died before the discovery of DNA, and many before even the theory of evolution. In such circumstances, theism still made sense. If the same set of scientists were alive today, I would wage that most would be agnostics or atheists.
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bassatom
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 10:52:52 PM » |
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PaulCyp
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 11:14:51 PM » |
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Can't add to your list, but I know quite a few theistic scientists today.
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OldPilot
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 11:21:54 PM » |
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The Scientific Method cannot be used to prove or disprove the existence of God. Science is silent on the subject.
One of the major thinkers in the development of the Big Bang Theory was a Roman Catholic Priest (Georges Lemaître).
A similar list can be made for all religious thought. There are competent scientists that are: Theists, Atheists, Agnostic, Monotheists, or Polytheists. The two areas of human thought are not related so long as you do not bring dogma from either area into the other.
The mind set for science is: The universe makes sense and is governed by logical, consistent rules that we can figure out. Therefore, the Scientific Method can be thought of as being like the Rules of Evidence in a Court of Law. The SM does NOT allow the use of "God" as part of the support of a scientific argument. This has nothing to do with the existence or nonexistence of God. You can be a Theist and hold that your goal is to understand the Mind of God. You are trying to understand how God did it, even if you cannot understand why. You cannot say, "This is beyond my understanding, so God must have done it." Nor, can you say that your Holy Book that has been translated from ancient languages written by people that did not have the understanding we have is the reveled Word of God and 100% accurate and literally correct. (Example: The Hebrews at the time of Moses did not have the concept of fractions as a result the Biblical value for Pi is exactly 3 (1 Kings). Nor, did they understand the Horologic Cycle and believed that rain was an Act of God.)Perhaps, Genesis 1:1 was mistranslated from ancient Hebrew. I think it might say, "In the Beginning the universe was void and without form and God said, 'BANG!!' and there was matter and energy.")
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Bulldog_Drummond
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 11:31:34 PM » |
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Clearly you are setting yourself up for argument by appeal to authority. Appeal to authority is anti-science, not science. But uneducated people don't know the difference, and you are preparing to exploit their ignorance. This is just my own personal opinion, but exploiting ignorance doesn't seem to be a very Christian endeavor.
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Steadfast
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 11:56:47 PM » |
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You are not making an equal comparison. You are comparing apples with oranges. Believing in a creator is something and believing in a dogmatic beliefs is something else. Also you are talking about individuals who believed in God and Science who were persecuted by the Church. Why because the church suppressed knowledge except what they approved.
I am not accusing the Christian faith here I am pointing to the clergy. This clergy suppressing system happens every where, generation and religion. It also happened in Islam but to a lesser extent. Why because the role of clergy in Islam is minimal if at all. This is why science prospered under the Islamic state rule. They encouraged research and learning. This is why every Muslim scientist between 7th and almost till 18th century was a devout practicing person.
But, in comparison the role of the Christian clergy was so powerful that it suppressed science, research and learning (even Bible learning except what the clergy taught - in Islam a child would know the Quran by heart) this is why Christian Europe plunged into darkness from 300CE to 17th century when the scientist broke of the church though some remained to believe in God their own way.
Please understand it is the human element that supreses more than the religion itself. Christianity does not specifically condemn knowledge but clergy took it upon themselves to do so. While Islam in the Quran pushes people to go and do research and no clergy to stop it. (though at certain times some powerful personalities tried to push people to their way of thinking - but faced with clear Quranic verses failed to do so sooner or later)
So make sure you do a good and compatible comparison.
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David_D
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 01:39:15 AM » |
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And your point is???
Would you like a list of Muslim scientists???
See the link below. The list is too long to list here...
The Muslim scientists were advancing the world's knowledge when Christians were busy trying to figure out how many angels could dance on the head of a pin OR whether Adam had a navel...
How about these scientists...
Anaksagor (500-428 BC) Anaksimandr (610-547 BC) Anaksimen (apprx. 585 - apprx. 523 BC) Apollony Pergsky (apprx. 260 - 170 BC) Archimedes (287-212 BC) Aristotle (384-322 BC) Brahmagupta (568-460 BC) Chzhan Hen (78-139 Demokrit (460-360 BC) Diofant (300 BC.) Eratosfen (276-191 BC) Erazistrat (IV-III centuries BC) Evklid (III century BC) Fales Miletsky (625-547 BC) Fukidid (460-395 BC) Geraklit (500BC) Gerodot (300 BC) Geron Alexandria (a pprx. I century d.C.) Gipparh (apprx. 190 - 125 BC) Gippokrat (460-377 BC) Great Juj (2000 BC) Imhotep (2650 BC) Ksenofont (430-355 BC) Pifagor (572-497 BC) Pjan Chiao (V century BC) Platon (427-347 BC) Prokl (410-485 Ptolemej Claudias (Apprx. 168) Shi Shen (IV century BC)
None of whom were Christians...
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